Canada Machine Cancellations of the 20th and 21st Centuries

The blog page wasn't working very well so I thought I would try setting something up in a wiki and this is about the easiest wiki I've seen. If you had signed up for the blog you've already received an email with the password for this site.

To add a comment or upload a picture simple click on the Edit page tab at the top of the page. A window opens and you can type your comments. Sign the posting with your name including the date and time of the posting; end your comments with a line that starts with 3 hyphens and nothing else. This will create a horizontal line to separate postings.

Charles Livermore March 11, 2005 10:41am E.S.T.

Purpose of this Page !

I had an email from a member who wanted to know the purpose of the page. As it is an out growth of the Canadian Machine Cancel Study Group of the PHS it would make sense to limit it to Machine Cancels excluding those of the 19th Century. Any contrary views?

Charles Livermore March 12 11:43am est

Washington 2006 is now a memory.

I was introduced to another type of marking - the Transorma. From: http://kjell.smult.com/transorma_utl.htm

The Transorma was demonstrated in 1927 but it wasn't until 1955 that Peterborough had one installed. It was used until 1963. And apparently didn't work very well. Doug Lingard introduced me to the markings and I found two at Wash 2006. When I find them I'll scan and post them here. Anyone willing to part with the ones they find would please me greatly. Does anyone have any additional information about them?

Charles Livermore - June 8 2006 3:40pm

Here is a picture of a London machine with the red cancel usually used for the Advanced Posting Service. Did Holmes have the post office make this up for him? Does anyone have a London Ontario APS cancel addressed to anyone other than Holmes?<

Charles Livermore May 17 2006 3:49pm. Since this last post I have heard from someone who has another copy of a London APS with a different address. (Feb 8 2007 Livermore)

New APS town found !

I recently was able to acquire a number of new APS cancels including one fron London, Ontario which had not been reported. I'll get a picture of it on my APS (Advanced Posting Service) website tonight or tomorrow.

http://charleslivermore.com/red-cancels/aps.html

Even with this new bunch or cards I still have not found an APS from Montreal and they are reported from at least 1938 and 1939. If anyone has them please send a scan so they can be posted - better yet let me know how much they cost ... I'll send a check - :)

Charlie Livermore October 25, 2005

Plain Old Toronto !

I have been collecting the sub offices of Toronto. Two of the sub-offices had machine-cancels. Station B in 1907 (about) and Station/Terminal A from about 1921. Terminal A and the Main Post Office "shared" the same building/location. This raises the question as to whether Station/Terminal A and the Main Office are the same. Is something that quacks always a duck?

The above speculation was first suggested to me by Bob Thorne. He further suggested that from sometime in the early 1920's to about July 1926 finding a cancel for "Plain old Toronto" might be impossible. And sure enough - I've been trying to find one for the past couple of years but to no avail.

I'd like help in confirming or not the above hyposthesis. If it's true I'd like to put dates on the period for which "Plain old Toronto" doesn't exist.

Tonight I'll take a look at some of the stuff I have to begin the investigation.

Charles Livermore. May 10 2005

Charles: from Cecil Coutts, 11 March 2006.

I don't have all the Hughes/Lee Proof Strikes of Ontario books. I do have the CDS Proof Book and note that a Toronto, Ont CDS was proofed in 1890. The next CDS shown is Toronto Canada in 1933. So this might be one reason a plain Toronto from the 1920's is difficult to find. I have a Toronto Canada CDS receiver (back of cover) dated 8 Sept 1933.

Charles: from Cecil Coutts, 13 March 2006.

I didn't go far enough into the Hughes/Lee CDS Proof Book for Ontario. The cancels I mention above all were without side dots. In another section of the Proof Book, Toronto hammers with side dots are shown. Plain Toronto hammers here are dated in the 1920's which shoots down my earlier assumption that the lack of hammers is the reason for the lack of strikes from the period in question.

The dots and sans dots brings up another question. Why the difference in format? Were there two die makers?

Cec

Cec.